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Development Name:  Nestinarka Complex

Location: Tzarevo, Bulgaria

 

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Hi everyone

What a nightmare dealing with M R I. Does anyone know if the other development has gone up in front of Nestinarka. Has anyone been able to acess their appartment. Hoping to go out in july to see for myself. Has anyone got a rental agreement with developer ? I have given up trying to get real information from M R I or Legal Independance.

Roxy

 

roxy
Has anyone managed to sell an apartment through MRI or know of anyone who has.izzy

Has anyone heard anything from MRI about the furniture etc?

Also does anyone know of any other estate agent that might be able to find a buyer for it.    We would be willing to take a very tiny profit just to cover our expenses really.   MRI add 10% or € 6000 whichever is the most  which make the apartments expensive

bubsy

Has anyone got pictures of the furnished apartment.

To my knowledge there was an issue with either a waste pipe or water pipe being in the wrong place and MRI were not fitting as the conection could not be made, I have been on to MRI and I was told my apartment would be rectified and the snagging list completed, cleaned and furnished by end of March. I have asked for photos

connie1
Connie received your e mai but unable to reply as cannot find you on message board. You need to post again so I can replydcahill

We have decided to sell the studio in Nestinarka and have asked MRI to put it on their resale list.

As far as we know the furniture has gone in but MRI are not very informative when it comes to the 'keeping us informed of developments' aspect of their aftersales service.

 

bubsy
Could everybody who completed at Nestinarka get in touch as we need to put our heads together regarding Property management rental income.dcahill

Just come across your forum - really interesting and informative.  We have purchased an apartment at Bay View Complex but have never been to Tsarevo.  Been checking the area out on the net but would appreciate any comment from those of you who have visited Tsarevo during the process of purchasing your apartments.  For info. our complex is also running 6 months late due to building not permitted during the summer months for the 2 years of construction.

Any tips on Furniture Packages - Is it possible to purchace bedding / plates etc locally since these appear to be very expensive in the Packages.

Thanks

 

 

tylerga

has anybody had any luck with this property? what are everyone's plans now that completion has taken place?

Vicky N
Hi Mike123 contact me direct I may be able to help.Nestinarka

Can somebody tell me who are the developers there, and do they have some available units!

Regards!

Mike123

Hi All,

 

Has anyone heard from MRI regarding Nestinarka. Is the furniture installed,? who has the keys ?, when can we get access?

 

Robert B

Robert;b

Hi everyone,

We are not going ahead with Nestinarka,but have already bought furniture(not MRI).If anyone would be interested in taking it from us at a hefty discount,please let us know by private e-mail.

seagull

Is anybody looking to sell their appartment? Or has anybody found somewhere decent where they can rent?

Vicky N
Don't fancy trusting the developer having anything to do with the renting.............bubsy
We need to look at options for renting out to maximise our investment. Robert.b's idea sounds interesting. Does anybody have contacts who will be able to handle the changeovers and generally keep an eye on the place?Nestinarka
MRI will not be renting out Nestinarka. We could rent out via the developer or seek other means. Anyone going to rent out with the developer?Vicky N

 MRI in their Lifetime membership fee includes 'Annual shorterm rental management fee'  I wrote to ask what exactly that means and I got back a mail  which I will copy in here.

I dont know would they find customers for us...

Further to your recent enquiry, the Annual Short Term Property Management fee is part of the rental service service covered by MRI Villas and Apartments and covers the following items:

 

Initial Inventory Check

Coordination of Arrivals

Booking of Cleaning Services

Coordination of Laundry Services

Key Holding

Inventory Check between guests

Health & Safety Accessory Check

Emergency Call out for guests

Resort Office for Guests

Annual Rental Ready Checks

 

ADDITIONAL SERVICES:

Maid Service (price on request)

Call out for Lock Out – 150euros

Call out at Owners Request – 150euros

Utility Reconnection – 250euros

Resort Adhoc Service – 50euros per hour

Monthly Post Forwarding Service – 25euros (per month)

 

QUOTES OBTAINED FOR:

Reforms & Repairs

Plumbing

Electrical Work

Alarm Systems

Locksmiths

Swimming Pool Maintenance

Garden Maintenance

Satellite / TV Installation

Industrial Cleaning

Interior Design

Rental Ready Upgrades

Rental Ready Enhancement

Refurbishment

 
Kind Regards
 
Peter Macdonald-Howe
Owners Accounts Co-ordinator
bubsy

Hi All,

Nearly completed purchase in Nestinarka. Rentals!!. If we are so called smart investors then why dont we get together and form some sort of  "Company" legally!!, where we can employ, possibly a chambermaid ie, someone to get an apartment/studio ready for guests who we could rent to. How do we get guests to rent, why not set up our own website and take bookings. Otherwise, we are all paying mortages on property with no rental income. Yes, I agree we could rent to family and friends, but that money will not covers mortage costs. If it is a holiday place then I could understand not wanting to rent it out, but I for one , would like to make maximum return on my gamble!!

Robert;b

Having looked at the photos that nigel posted I am quite pleased with the place.  A huge improvement since we saw it in July.  

LI will complete for us next week.

bubsy
well i, m not completing and am in touch with a solicitor to take legal action against mriinternational mam of mystery
Have just uploaded a few pics from 29th Septnigeldun
To hudson, according to Carmen Lopez, if your contract does state that you will be given guaranteed rental, then the developer will stand by this. Not all contracts have this. Only a few people were actually told (and stated) in their contracts that they would receive guaranteed rent. I for one am not one of those people who would have received guaranteed rent.Vicky N

tO vICKY  N

tHE DEVELOPER IS NOT GIVEING GUARANTEED RENTAL AS ORIGINALLY AGREED , & MY APARTMENTS HAVE BEEN UP FOR SALE SINCE EARLY THIS YEAR WITH NO INTEREST AT ALL . Also , how can you expect to rent your apt out when the site is still a building site .

hudson

Hi All,

For anyone still seeking a solution for Nestinarka,,,ie an alternative to buying there....the person you should speak to is Corporate Director Steve Canueto on MRI's main number.He assures me he is very keen to find alternatives for those who don't want to  complete at Nestinarka......he is also confirming MRI will support us in any legal action against the developer if buyers still want to go down that route.I am not trying to be a spokesman for MRI,merely passing on what he has been saying to me,and I do believe it is well worth calling him if you are still undecided about this whole fiasco.

seagull

Hi all, have you decided whether you will complete or not? MRI Have given their clients the option of completing or purchasing elsewhere, i.e Portugal where they have said the Portugese developer will be clients who are leaving Nestinarka a discount of 15,900 Euros. The appartments in Portugal are 106,000 Euros. I have decided to complete on Nestinarka due to having put so much money down towards the appartment and for legal fees and furniture etc.. 

Carmen Lopez was meant to email everyone, however if you have not heard from her please do phone her. I did not receive an email from her (although she did say she emailed me), however when i spoke to her she re-emailed me details. Her advice is to complete, and to let the developer rent the appartments should you wish to, or sell them if you wish to.

Who will not be completing? Please post your comments on this board, thanks.

Vicky N

Do we complete or not ?. Time running out!!. MRI advising not but t en we all lose deposits. If we complete we legally own the property, would that not be the better option. MRI explained to me today that we cannot take legal action against developr until we legally own the property , but if we do not complete then WE are in breach of contract . Real mess

 

Robert Barrett 07709604343, Greater Manchester, any calls and advice welcome ( not in day, I teach)

Robert;b
I am contracted for 3 studios and am very concerned over the situation out there.  I know that there are many more people buying out there who have not posted a message on the board themselves but I am trying to get everyone dissatisfied together to act as one so if you have not posted please do so and I will make contact as we do not appear to have long to sort this mess out.nigeldun

no her advice is to complete but only to those that contact her

as she had,nt spoken to anybody else when i spoke to her  apart from us two

so if you dont contact her she cannot advise you to complete

and you will only have the e-mail from mri saying dont complete till we contact you

lets see them get out of that

international mam of mystery
Carmen Lopez is supposed to be e-mailing everyone to explain why she believes we should complete.Obviously ,I told her this was not acceptable as things stand and said I wanted her advice in writing so that we can all consider what to do next.She appears to be negotiating with the builder in  a bid to find a solution,but I have heard nothing from her since early last Thursday.Please chase her up!!seagull
what do you mean carmen lopez is telling us to complete . We have not heard anything from her since saying they were going to inspect the complex re completion . This is a very serious situation in which we should all be sticking together & acting as one .hudson
I am contracted for 3 studios and am very concerned over the situation out there.  I know that there are many more people buying out there who have not posted a message on the board themselves but I am trying to get everyone dissatisfied together to act as one so if you have not posted please do so and I will make contact as we do not appear to have long to sort this mess out.nigeldun

if she bis recomending we should complete then she should contact us we are paying them

plus if the developer has these get out clause,s how come they never pointed them out to us surely that was what we had used them for

no nobody seemed interseted in geting a independant lawyer  so i,m waiting to see what happens to this bloody shambles and if i,m not happy then i will be taking all three to court legal action against mri has to be from spain but i dont care

international mam of mystery

suggest all buyers contact Carmen Lopez at LI....she is recommending we all complete.Her

 no is OO359 56859444 or e-mail on address given earlier.

seagull
Surely if MRI and LI are advising us not to complete the purchase they should also being giving us advice on how we terminate the contract and get our money back from the builder. Did anybody find out what the likely costs are of a case against the builder and how many people will be willing to share?Nestinarka

This is an excellent open forum for Nestinarka clients to gauge the reactions of other investors, and allows the possibility of group action. (the power of the many).

Nigeldun is correct, there are many buyers who perhaps are not aware of this website. I know MRI actively monitor it, and so probably do LI and maybe even the builder.

MRI should contact all other similiar agencys dealing with Nestinarka, and inform them of this website. Our Lobby is strongest if everyone is onboard.

MRI are a big player, and their reputation will go down the toilet if this does not turn out well. In the end they will loose a lot more than we will.

 

 

eomalley
I am contracted for 3 studios and am very concerned over the situation out there.  I know that there are many more people buying out there who have not posted a message on the board themselves but I am trying to get everyone dissatisfied together to act as one so if you have not posted please do so and I will make contact as we do not appear to have long to sort this mess out.nigeldun

Page 4 of preliminary contract

a) to present to the buyers..............................................approved artitectural design (which one??)

b) all information regarding the property, subject to this contract is true and complete and the seller did not miss to inform the buyer about the existence of hidden defects (what a joke!)

2) in case the seller fails to fulfil its obligations....refuses execution of this contract or concludes whatsoever other deal with this property without the written consent of the buyer, the latter has the right to terminate this present contract unilateral without a notice and free itself from its contract obligations, as in this case the seller shall refund to the buyer all payments made to him till the termination moment, as well as to pay a penalty amounting of agreed earnest within 14 days from the day contract was terminated.

page 7 (4) All notifications........................................................For every change the seller shall notify the buyer or proxy within 3 days.......................

14 (f) if upon accepting the constructed building it becomes clear that the activities carrried out do not correspond to contract.........Buyer has rights under Article 265 of the Obligations and Contracts Act?????

17.2 (page 9) This is where the seller has written to us demanding the money, how is it that he feels that this part of the contract should be adhered to!!!!!!!!

dcahill
Have been following with interest details on this website in relation to Nestinarka, we have purchased 2x1 bedroom apartments there and were also informed that we would have a sea view, hence our reason for buying in the first place.  Just wondering has anybody been contacted by MRI about shifting their investment to Portugal.  Our dealings have been directly with MRI and Legal Ind. we will not deal directly with the builder and furthermore will certainly not be handing over any more money until such time as we are 100% certain that every thing has been signed off, this includes the Phase 2 development ground, our information is that the builder is at fault for trying to implement Phase 2 thereby changing the plans and maybe in breach of contract, this is where Legal Ind as our solicitors, should be representing us the paying client.  With Phase 2 gone, we most definitely should not be handing over any money until satisified.  If MRI want us to have trust in them as a reputable overseas property company, they must step up to the plate.  We should be offered the opportunity by MRI to be flown over to Bulgaria free gratas and a conference held to inform investors what the hell is going on.  I need to actually physically see the site because at this stage I find it very hard to believe what all parties are telling me.  Also wondering did anybody receive a reply from Darragh MacAnthony?  The whole scenario is totally unprofessional.connie1
Have had e-mail from Carmen saying there is no mention of guaranteed rental in contract and asking why we think there is such an understanding. We can't all be wrong, can we? What are they on?Nestinarka
No e-mail was not from LI but direct from builder, do not know how he got my e-mail address. Message is threatening to cancel contract and take deposit as forfeiture if balance is not paid over within 1 month. He seems to overlook that he has breached the terms of the contract by deliberately misleading us in the description of the location in the contract. Have asked Carmen for her advice but no reply received.Nestinarka
how many more  times he cannot deliver  he states quite clearly neighbouring the sea that   veiw was my main selling point it is no longer there so he pays up simpleinternational mam of mystery

just heard from MRI....builder,in his desperation, is indeed contacting buyers direct....how,as you say,did he get e-mail addresses?Best now surely to let LI sort it out......there is no way the builder can cancel the contract if he doesn't deliver the agreed contents. 

seagull
yes ,we have had email from the developer .He sounds desperate & quite threatening .Have sent email to LI & LINDA  M ASKING WHY HE HAS CONTACTED US DIRECT & HOW HE HAS GOT OUR EMAIL ADRESS . NO SEAGULL , IT IS NOT THE ONE WE MEANT . WE GOT ONE FROM LI & LINDA LAST WEEK SAYING THE SAME THING THAT THEY DO NOT EXPECT US TO HAND OVER MONEY AT THIS PRESENT TIME . THEY ARE GOING TO INSPECT THE SITE & DO NOT EXPECT IT TO BE FINISHED . LI WILL THEN INFORM US OF OUR LEGAL OPTIONShudson

carmen lopez at LI.........carmen lopez@martinezechevarria.com....in her email to me she said MRI and LI representatives would be inspecting the site and would then inform us all of our legal options.I think we can take it as read that the work has NOT  been done!

 

seagull
Do you have an e-mail address for her?john - p
When Nestinarka says he has had e-mail from the builder,does he mean the one we should all have had by now from LI ?  If so,the advice is basically to ignore it......LI and MRI say this just a legal requirement and that there is no question of any buyers having to pay over any more money until EVERYTHING in the contract is delivered.We have had a much more positive contact with LI through office manager Carmen Lopez and suggest we all deal through her now.seagull
Have just received e-mail from builder wanting to know why he hasn't been paid the second(final) instalment and threatening to terminate contract if not paid within one month. Cheeky beggar. Anybody else received his e-mail?Nestinarka
its down to the developer to make everything right and do you think he would care about us he should be made to pay all that is owed plus leave a perfectly good complexinternational mam of mystery
we are all affected we had a sea veiw even from the pool  before  and the agrement was neighbouring the sea not a sea viewinternational mam of mystery

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