Hi!

Sounds like you had a great time  You mentioned potential buyers being directed to Kusadasi - can you explain please?

Also, I don't know if anyone bought through Superior Properties based in Bristol but they have gone bust!

Regards to you all

Hi

My friend and I are just back today from our adventure in Turkey last week so I'll try and share with you how we got on and what we learned!

We stayed in Izmir as we were advised last year that this is the best place to go for furniture we had definite ideas of what we were looking for our homes and Artev's packs didn't really offer what we were looking for.  There is an area called Karabaglar about 15 mins from the centre of Izmir which is just a road lined with furniture stores/lighting stores - not very glamorous to look at but some offer very luxurious furniture when you go inside, but it can be expensive.  We found an absolute life-saver of a company who make your furniture to the exact measurements, which is important as the Artev bedrooms are not overly generous and the furniture Artev offer is rather large (have you looked in the show house for example?)

We did wonder what we'd done when we first arrived in Izmir last Saturday as it is a very working class city which is densely populated with a strong muslim community - you can only buy alcohol in hotels.  We felt like celebrities in our week there as we were obviously not what these people were used to seeing and boy did they stare at us!! But they were really friendly and pleased when we frequented their cafe's/shops and very hospitable, there was no pressure or making you feel bad if you didn't buy anything.

Anyway to cut a long story short on the shopping part - Izmir was a challenging experience but we loved it and feel we achieved lots in that week.  So if you have the guts to do something different then I'd highly recommend it ,the food is cheap, there is a good bus service to Bodrum which takes 3.5hrs and the people are extremely friendly.

ARTEV NEWS:

Lakeside Garden where our apartments are has come on a lot but although they are still commited to finishing at end of May I'm not entirely convinced they will, there is still a lot to do on site and at the beach.

We asked about the development of the beach and were told that they had started this and showed us the diggers down at the bottom of the hill on the beach area.

Vita Park should have one course finished for this summer - apparently they sowed the wrong type of grass the first time which was killed off by the salt water from the lake and this is why it has been delayed.  The second course is scheduled for completion in 2009.

Regarding Millitary permission - they checked when it was applied for us which was on the 3rd September 07 but not through yet?

At the end of the day we have made our feelings known to Artev that for the final payment to be made 'everything' needs to be completed and this will include the beach as it is an important selling/marketing point.  On that note Artev have sold out on everything at Lake Tuzla (although they say that a few are reserved at this stage and not finalised) they are now directing potential customers to Kusadasi to purchase from them.

The beach is for use by the residents of Flamingo/Lakeside Gardens and Turquoise only.

The rental potential through Artev is unconfirmed at this time, they had a contract with Lotus travel for Hillside last year but have not been approached by them to date for Tuzla Lake and we were told that Artev will proceed with arrangements themselves for renting if they don't hear from Lotus. 

If there is anything else you want to know please just ask.  Sorry it's predominantly about Lakeside Gardens but that's where our apartments are and the only place we were taken but I have to say that the Flamingo resort buildings looked lovely as we passed it!

I'm looking forward to hearing others news over the next couple of months until we return in May.

K  

Hi everyone,

Can I ask if anyone has been granted a delay in final payment from Dec 07 to May 08 due to the delay in completion of the site?

By the way I am looking to sell my C type roof terrace apartment for the same price I paid for it 18 months ago.  If anyone knows anyone who mught be interested then I would happily pay a finders fee on completion.

Regards to you all,

Mark

Hi Karen,

I hope you have a good trip. It sounds like you have already made the decision to furnish your places yourselves.  I still can't make up my mind. I think the Artev packages are probably expensive - but can I be bothered to trawl around Turkey to save a couple of hundered quid? It might be fun....it will certainly be a bit of an adventure and I wish you the best of luck. (NB There's apparently an Ikea in Izmir if you're interested)

I'll be very interested to know how you think the beach is progressing. Last time I spoke to Katherine Kadron in Artev Aftersales she said completion is due in May. I'd also like to know how the golf course(s) are coming on. Originally they were opening in late 2006.

How are you getting there? One of the problems I've noticed is that a direct flight to Bodrum costs more than a weeks package deal. Be interested to know how Artev are going to deal with that in their marketing.  To be honest I'm not anticipating much of an income from that - there is going to be a glut of places on that hillside. Let's hope I'm wrong.

Any info you can get from Artev will be gratefully received, along with any hints/tips from your own experience.

Best wishes,

Murray 

Hi

I've just joined this forum over the weekend and am looking forward to sharing information with fellow owners of Artev properties in Tuzla Lake.  My friend and I have apartments in Lakeside Garden and are heading out to Turkey on 16th February.  If anyone has any questions they would like asked of Artev which we can add to our extremely long list then please feel free to forward to me. 

We are staying in Izmir this trip as we were advised this is the best area to buy furniture, appartently there is a road which is approx 4 miles long that is end to end with furniture suppliers (I'll think I've gone to heaven!)  We will  be visiting Lakeside site and Artev's office for a day during that week.

Kind Regards

Karen

Hi, everyone. Has anyone been able to get the currant market value of a top floor ARDEA apartment, fully furnished with a artev package and white goods on LAKESIDE GARDEN. artev wont answer emails .......... thanks

Hi ya Guys

So pleased to find this support group, I have been let down by my solicitor in Turkey could any one recommend a good one at this late stage.

I am looking to find a furniture package for our apartment, Artev have recommended their package which seems rather costly, has anyone recieved a catologue of artevs furniture package?

Thanks

• Lack of facility completion in Dec07 including importantly, the beach and beach club etc
  
• Payment delay due to non-supply of above amenities
• Reductions / Waiver of property management fees until all amenities supplied as contracted
  
• Payment timing with regard to essential documents for mortgages etc
  
• Water supply issues and backup supplies in the event of drought
• Indemnification  of costs for bringing mains water to the site when finally available
  
• Sewage handling
• Centralised satellite dish - who wants 1000's of ugly satellite dishes all over our buildings

Calling all owners on Flamingo Country Club to join our pro-active marketing and self-help support group - the Flamingo Country Club Owners Group.

This group, which is run on a non-profit basis for the benefit of its members -  actively markets all aspects of Tuzla Lake and the Bodrum Area as well as being the home of owners on Flamingo Country Club, Turquoise, Lakeside Gardens, Lake View and Royal Heights.To join you must be an owner on one of the above resorts. The site offers owner members:

• the ability to market their properties cost effectively
• private member only areas
• cost-effective rental marketing plans
• property sales sections - free and paid for
• information on Bodrum and surrounding areas
• the ability to buy discount sservices and products 

Please pass the word to contacts you many have on other resorts or fellow purchasers on FCC. Google Flamingo Country Club Turkey for more information.